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We got the information that 3.2, the ToC patch, is released this month. While this is not a bad thing in itself, Id like to point out why this is problematic.

WE NEED MORE INFORMATION

The reason is, limited information is harmful to a project like this. It is already July, so the new patch could hit any day, even today. This causes players to feel unmotivated. Why should someone invest time to farm honor items or pve badges right now, when these items have to be replaced with the new honor and badge-items with the new patch? Why play weekly arena matches and save points for an item, if these points could get resetted any time?

For arena players this situation is even more problematic. No player has full pvp gear from arena yet. We are only halfway in the arena season, but it could end any day. This season is active for less than 10 weeks, while there were 18 weeks on retail for season 6 (which was one of the shortest seasons in wrath). There is no information about when the season ends, when the new one will start, what placements result in which titles, if the season transition issues from last season got fixed. There only is uncertainty that results in losing trust. What if the next arena season will only be 10 weeks again? Does it even make sense to play arena, if players can only buy 2 or 3 items anyway over the whole season? As said, less information and communication is harmful for a project.

These questions need to be answered ASAP

1. When will the new content be released? Players at least need to know the week.
2. What is the new timeline for releases of content patches?
3. What are the plans for arena titles for the current season, so which placement will get which title?
4. Will honor points get resetted again, although its not blizzlike?
5. Are the developers aware of the issue that pvp-items were refundable after the reset of arena points last season or is it fixed yet?

These questions were asked many times without being answered. These can have two reasons. Either the responsible persons do have the answers, but dont want to inform the players, or they simply dont have the answers to these questions. The latter would be even worse, since it proves the players fear that the team doesnt care enough about their community to discuss these questions.
Either way, the players need information or else the server will have no future, at least pvp-wise.

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We've got more info coming out tonight. What I can say is the following:

Patch 3.2 part 1 (Onyxia, TOC dungeon and the smaller stuff like new profession recipes) will come either July 17 or 24. We'll have a date ready very soon. TOTC and the next arena season will come the following week (with this current arena season ending when Onyxia comes out)

We do expect this patch to also be short-ish, so we're looking at maybe doubling the amount of arena points flushed each week if that's the case.

In terms of "new" timeline, just subtract whatever weeks we skipped over the course of the timeline and you can predict when the next tier will come out. TOTC will probably be about 10 weeks as well, +/- 1.

In terms of plans for arena titles for the current season, that information is definitely coming out tonight.

Honor points will not be reset this time.

We are aware of the refund issue, which is why we're releasing the next season a week apart from this current season's end.

Look out on Discord and the Announcements section on the forum for the news.

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7 hours ago, Noxious said:

We do expect this patch to also be short-ish, so we're looking at maybe doubling the amount of arena points flushed each week if that's the case.

In terms of "new" timeline, just subtract whatever weeks we skipped over the course of the timeline and you can predict when the next tier will come out. TOTC will probably be about 10 weeks as well, +/- 1.

Honor points will not be reset this time.

We are aware of the refund issue, which is why we're releasing the next season a week apart from this current season's end.

Thanks for your reply.

With an arena season with only half the length of the original one (s7 was 20 weeks on retail) it only makes sense to give twice the amount of arena points or double the flushes. Otherwise, like in this season, most players will never get their gear before season ends. I like to hear a clear information regarding honor points too. 

What is still unclear for me is the refund issue. The solution you are mentioning doesnt do anything regarding the problem. If you just reset the points, items are still refundable. As soon as players get their points resetted, they can go to the next vendor and sell refundable items. Even if you wait for a week, it doesnt change anything. If you reset the points twice (e.g. at the end of the season and at the start of the new one) players could still refund items, as long as they have played less then 2 hours within that week.
What you need to do is to make items unrefundable at the same time you reset the arena points. There is no need for a break of a week regarding this issue.

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Although i m against doubling AP gain for the last 2 weeks, it does make sense that more people should have been able to get atleast 4/5 furious. Most including myself are only 3/5. 

The 2 rewards are much better thought out than last season. So good job on that!

I am split about rewarding 3's. If you want to reward it announce it at the start of the season, so people will actively play it. Then again the people who played it did invest time in it knowing it might not get rewarded. I would say if teams are able  to grind out

If rank 1 hits 2000 rating or higher - furious gladiator + mount

Otherwise

Anything above 1900 rating - gladiator ( no mount)

Anything above 1750 rating - duelist

Anything above 1550 rating - rival

Anything above 1400 rating - challenger

Seems fair(ish) that for most titles you need to get the PVP rating achievement in 3's. 

I would also like to point out to what Eltupi said about 3's on discord. It is something that i can agee on.

Just a thought for next season. Can there be an Estimated time period(can be off a week or 2) of how long seasons will last + rewards (2's and 3's) at the start of the season?

Also don't make furious weapons obtainable cheap or early in the relentless season. Give it a month? Or don't make them 500 AP, maybe keep Ap cost but no rating requirements? 

Cheers for providing intel. Really appreciate it. 

Edited by Kefkoe
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